在初步完成五十六冊的電子版佛典經文後，CBETA 的工作已邁入另一個分工更細
且整合性需求更高的作業階段，除了在台北的辦公室之外，我們亦有分散於其它
縣市，甚至有遠在異國的工作同仁，為了更有效結合這一份力量，我們想要架設
能在網路上進行專案管理的工具，不需要像project 那樣強大的功能，主要目的
是在於各組能輕易溝通，隨時填寫自己的進度，也能讓其他同仁掌握全部進度。

不知各位有沒有此類資訊可以介紹，unix 平台的方案也可以，
最好不需要什麼花費的。:) 
若有好的方案，非常歡迎您提供給我們參考，後學在此先獻上萬分的謝意！

祝　吉祥！

　　CBETA 網路組 敬上
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==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: 各位好：
: 在初步完成五十六冊的電子版佛典經文後，CBETA 的工作已邁入另一個分工更細
: 且整合性需求更高的作業階段，除了在台北的辦公室之外，我們亦有分散於其它
: 縣市，甚至有遠在異國的工作同仁，為了更有效結合這一份力量，我們想要架設
: 能在網路上進行專案管理的工具，不需要像project 那樣強大的功能，主要目的
: 是在於各組能輕易溝通，隨時填寫自己的進度，也能讓其他同仁掌握全部進度。
: 不知各位有沒有此類資訊可以介紹，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: 最好不需要什麼花費的。:) 
: 若有好的方案，非常歡迎您提供給我們參考，後學在此先獻上萬分的謝意！
: 祝　吉祥！
: 　　CBETA 網路組 敬上

可以將目標說得更清楚嗎？

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==> 於 想去花蓮看看 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: ==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: : 各位好：
: : 在初步完成五十六冊的電子版佛典經文後，CBETA 的工作已邁入另一個分工更細
: : 且整合性需求更高的作業階段，除了在台北的辦公室之外，我們亦有分散於其它
: : 縣市，甚至有遠在異國的工作同仁，為了更有效結合這一份力量，我們想要架設
: : 能在網路上進行專案管理的工具，不需要像project 那樣強大的功能，主要目的
: : 是在於各組能輕易溝通，隨時填寫自己的進度，也能讓其他同仁掌握全部進度。
: : 不知各位有沒有此類資訊可以介紹，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: : 最好不需要什麼花費的。:) 
: : 若有好的方案，非常歡迎您提供給我們參考，後學在此先獻上萬分的謝意！
: : 祝　吉祥！
: : 　　CBETA 網路組 敬上
: 可以將目標說得更清楚嗎？

目標大致上可以這樣講：

我們想架一個系統在伺服器上，能夠做流程管理、KM、專案管理、ERP，甚至工時管理、
CRM等等，但是不想用M$的東東，因為要Many $$$$$$。:)

M$最進也一直在推展M$ extension server，不過我們對那些沒有信心，也沒有那麼多錢。

如果有linux的解決方案，就能夠直接加在現有的伺服器上。

希望大家能夠提供建議與指導。^_^!

我想基本的需求可能是群組討論和文件管理吧，如果有專案管理(像是M$ Project)的系統
就更美了。:P

==> 於 想去花蓮看看 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: ==> 於 Heaven (Heavenchow@Lion) 文中述及:
: : 各位好：
: : 在初步完成五十六冊的電子版佛典經文後，CBETA 的工作已邁入另一個分工更細
: : 且整合性需求更高的作業階段，除了在台北的辦公室之外，我們亦有分散於其它
: : 縣市，甚至有遠在異國的工作同仁，為了更有效結合這一份力量，我們想要架設
: : 能在網路上進行專案管理的工具，不需要像project 那樣強大的功能，主要目的
: : 是在於各組能輕易溝通，隨時填寫自己的進度，也能讓其他同仁掌握全部進度。
: : 不知各位有沒有此類資訊可以介紹，unix 平台的方案也可以，
: : 最好不需要什麼花費的。:) 
: : 若有好的方案，非常歡迎您提供給我們參考，後學在此先獻上萬分的謝意！
: : 祝　吉祥！
: : 　　CBETA 網路組 敬上
: 可以將目標說得更清楚嗎？

我舉我自己的例子:

因為我們的工作機動性比較高, 許多事都是一邊實驗一邊進行, 
所以事先也無法用 project 這類程式去規劃全面的事及行程. 
我目前手中可能有幾支程式要寫, 這些是由各組所提出的,
所以我希望能有一個所有同仁都能寫上最新工作進度的地方, 
這樣我就比較能評估, 誰的 case 比較急, 誰比較可以等...
而我安排這些進度時, 別人也可以依據我訂定的支援時程, 
去安排他們自己的時間.

也就是說, 每個人都可能有很多工作, 有的急, 有的不急.
這真的要大家都寫出來之後, 才能全面的進行沙盤推演, 
哪些事是誰配合誰先做, 哪些事大家都可以緩著點, 
這樣才不會忙錯方向.

而且這些進度可能三五天就會變動, 由一個專案負責人主導
全部方案的方式不太可行, 所以希望能有一個地方大家
都能填上自己的所有工作進度, 互相配合其它人, 
才將分散各地的人力充份且適切的運用.

所以若有什麼簡單又適合的方案, 請好康倒相報. :)

  heaven

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: 如果有linux的解決方案，就能夠直接加在現有的伺服器上。

今天看到一個KM的系統，可以架在Unix上唷，得好幾十萬。
:(

如果有訂 MSDN 的話，就可以使用其中的 M$ Project，有授權。
MSDN 一年的訂費印象中五六萬塊而已，不算貴，且可用大多數 m$
產品。不過如果組織小，可能比較吃虧。

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  您列的需求,我覺得應再寫詳細一點,什麼功能,做到什麼程度,
如果列出來的東西,不算很大的話,何不自己操刀,這樣雖然會花
點時間coding ,但以後要改就比較方便.....

==> 於 小水滴 (triper@Lion) 文中述及:
:   您列的需求,我覺得應再寫詳細一點,什麼功能,做到什麼程度,
: 如果列出來的東西,不算很大的話,何不自己操刀,這樣雖然會花
: 點時間coding ,但以後要改就比較方便.....

應該是這子說，因為cbeta的人力不多，負責寫程式的heaven是眾家必爭之人，因此
工作事項很多，時程也滿滿的，需要一個簡單的系統，可以把一連串工作的事情，顯
示出目前的進度，然後知道現在有那些事情要處理，那些事情較急迫等等。

我們還有另一個問題，就是一大堆索取光碟的要求，希望能夠直接和現有的資料庫結合，
以避免重覆，並可控管目前的執行情形，例如郵寄了沒，幾月幾號會處理等等。

大概就這樣子，如果有現成的系統可用，希望大家能提供建議，不過如果要自己花時間
寫程式，那恐怕會有其他的問題產生。^_^!

其實我們是很窮的，所以沒什麼錢請人家寫程式啦……

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Double Choco Latte is a package that provides basic project management
capabilities, time tracking on tasks, call tracking, email notifications,
online documents, statistical reports, a report engine, and more features
are either working or being developed/planned. It is licensed under
the GPL (GNU Public License), which means it is free to study,
distribute, modify, and use.

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Requirements 
Here is a list of requirements and options to run Double Choco Latte. 

PHP - recent versions of 3 and version 4 both work. 
Any OS that runs PHP (including UN*X, BSD, Linux, Windows) 
A web server 
Apache 
IIS 
A SQL Database 
PostgreSQL 
MySQL 
Sybase Adaptive Server Enterprise 
Microsoft SQL Server 

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Features 
Double Choco Latte provides basic project management, work orders, and call center tickets. It supports the following features and concepts:

Work Orders - Use for tracking history of almost anything: bugs, requests, maintenance, project tasks. 
Projects - Include hierarchal support so sub-projects can be created. Parent project's statistics include all child project stats to provide an overall status of all projects. 
Call Tickets - Use for contact with clients. Self-timing. 
Time Cards - Time taken on a work order to accomplish an action. Multiple time cards can be input for a single work order. 
Attribute Sets 
An attribute set consists of: Actions, Priorities, Severities, Statuses. 
Each product can support its own attribute set for work orders and tickets. 
Accounts - Client based tracking 
Personnel - People involved in the projects, including hierarchal support 
Departments - To "categorize" personnel 
Severities - List a bug's severity level 
Priorities - Ranks bugs by priority 
Statuses - Tracks bugs by status 
Sequences - Related Work Orders carry the same Job Number and incremental sequence numbers. Can be used for projects. 
Products - Obvious, but also can be assigned a person to "report to". Useful for product managers to track what they're responsible for. 
E-Mail notification via watches. 
Notification for statuses: Open, Close, Change 
Optional notification for any activity 
Can watch a product or project and receive E-Mails for their respective work orders 
Can watch a specific work order. 
Can also watch tickets in the same way, with the exception of projects. 
 
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This is a list of companies and projects that use DCL. If you'd like to add your company/project to this list, click here. BT Openworld Content Studio 
Tim Gregory tim.gregory at bt.com 
We about to roll out DCL to a team of designers and coders to handle bug reports and daily work order management on the portals we manage. We are also hoping to replace our current time-sheet system with DCL's timecard reporting. 
Dallas Airmotive 
Jorge Adrian Salaices asalaices at dallasairmotive.com 
I am starting to use it to keep track of project that are assigned to all of the Techs and My Programmers. It has Great Functionality and it is very Easy to use.  
ISO 90001:2000 Registration 
Darryl VanDorp themaniac at users.sourceforge.net 
DCL is used in our company to track project work related to our Quality System Registration. For example a work order is submitted to create documentation; or to track the progress of the creation of a new training program etc. DCL was/is very helpfull 
in providing very granular detail of project implementation and maintains very detailed history. 
National Community Services, Inc. 
Jason Cater jason at ncsmags.com 
Our IT department has switched from yellow stickies on the side of our monitors to this excellent ticket/project management system. I can now print out reports on practically any aspect of our support/development -- even reports that are useful for 
management whom has no clue what a "trouble ticket" is to begin with. The beauty of this system is in its simplicity: Complex enough to do what you need... simple enough to be useful. 
RUBIX Information Technologies, Inc. 
Renny Koshy renny.koshy at rubixinfotech.com 
We were on the search for an easy to use, easy to configure problem reporting & feature request system. Of all the programs that we've looked at, I've liked DCL the best. There were some program with slightly "nicer" UI's *but ONLY for Micro$oft 
Windoze* -- which made them rather unattractive. The fact that it was an opensource development project made it even more desirable. Great Product 
USAHotelJobs.com 
Derek Neighbors derek at gnue.org 
We use DCL to manage all of our projects and trouble tickets for all our marketing and web development for USAHotelJobs.com. It has sped up development considerably as management and the programming team are now both more accountable to what is going 
on in the projects. 
Webpipe.net 
Matt Garner mattg at webpipe.net 
We use DCL as our support ticket management system, our order fulfillment system. It worked wonders for our support staff as they were using millions of PostIt notes and legal pads. We've integrated an automatic support email handling system which 
automatically receives support mail, assigns the issue a ticket number, notifies the user, redirects to the appropriate staff based on keywords, and automatically tracks all correspondence in between! DCL is a life saver! 
 Conquer Corporation 
Walter Landman wlandman at conquer.net 
We use it for managing our internal projects, the work that people outsource to us, and we handle other office matters. DCL offers plently of customization that fits 99% of our needs. 
Embarcadero Publishing Company 
Frank A. Bravo fabravo at EmbarcaderoPublishing.com 
I have a staff of three who are responsible for several web sites and hardware/software support of our five physical sites. I looked for a long time to find a 100 percent web-based solution that would do what we needed and DCL is just that. We have 
started to use it to track items called into our makeshift call center and it has performed great! Each of us can track problems and give insight into issues. It is all right there and accessible from anywhere! There are features we would never use, 
but its customization allows for use to just use those parts we need. While I am still learning the technologies behind it, I am very pleased to have found it ?DCL itself is VERY easy to configure and use. 
Lufthansa Systems Berlin 
Herbert Mollien herbert.mollien at lhsystems.com 
We use it mainly for bug-tracking purposes in a software development project.  
RISCO, Inc. 
Michael Dean mdean at users.sourceforge.net 
This is the itch that needed scratching. Currently, DCL is being used in the call center for customer call tracking, development for tracking bugs and feature requests, hardware/networking for tracking maintenance issues, and QA for test cycle issues. 
The MathWorks UK 
Tom Yates tyates at gatekeeper.ltd.uk 
We allow certain external users of MATLAB to report issues with custom products. DCL lets them report issues over the web, it lets us assign issues to engineers and track unresolved issues easily. It's great. 
various 
Dan Bethe dan_bethe at yahoo.com 
I use it at home for managing my household of various renters and my basic life, and I've used it at various companies I've been at, to replace basic use of Microsoft Project. It's an essential groupware component, wrapped up in a nice SSL-protected 
web page. 
 
 
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==> 於 鳳兮 (tyuan@Lion) 文中述及:
: 試試這軟體看看
:         http://dcl.sourceforge.net

感謝您，我來試試看……^_^!

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