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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:10:47 +0800 (CST)
From: David Chiou <b83050@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: BBS in US (fwd)

以下是在美國的 Shawn Chang 大德所寄來的信件，
關於在美國設立一中文 BBS ，並與台灣的 tw.bbs
連線，借以集合每每從美國遠程 telnet 回台灣的
華人，節省他們 telnet 的時間並且弘揚佛法，
使得美國亦有一中文佛教 BBS 中心。

目前的計畫，是在機器及 ip address 等 OK 後，
請 kftseng 學長以台大佛學研究中心正在籌畫的
 BBS 為底稿，稍加修改，即可直接在美國開張，
屆時提供眾多從美國慢慢 telnet 回台灣的華人
一個便捷、省時，獲得母國資訊的管道。

如果值得的話，可能還會再加上 MODEM Dial-Up 線，
讓使用者能直接撥上。（不過這樣子就要花經費了。）

一切皆還在籌畫中，以上所述僅為可能的草稿而已，
若各位大德有相關的專長，歡迎告知您的建議，謝謝!


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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 01:03:04 5
From: Shawn Chang <shawn@enter.net>
To: b83050@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw
Subject: BBS in US

Dave,

I've discussed with 慧開法師(來自佛光山, currently pursuing PhD in
religion in Temple University, PA), 果稠師 (紐約東初禪寺), Mike Chen
(CLC Research, this company set up web page for Hsi Lai
Temple西來寺, their URL is http://www.clcr.com/hsilai/), and
覺凡法師 (Hsi Lai Temple). They all received a long mail which I put
together all e-mails relating to this issue. So they know very
well the progress of this issue.

They are all very supportive. What 覺凡法師 (Hsi Lai Temple) needs
at this point is a more detail description for proposal. Like how
many phone lines? Exactly what kind of work or activities will be
involved? etc. If you could, provide me some detail. So they know
better what to expect and what to do from here.

I'll relay your e-mails relating to this issue to them. And keep you
inform on our progress here. And in the mean time, don't give up on
your side. Buddhism community used to be an invisible group in US.
They are out there but unless you do some digging, it won't be easy to
find them. I hope through the help of either BBS or internet, we can
get them out of their shell and get some fresh air  :-)

By the way, it's pretty easy in US to get online service.
CompuServe, American Online, Prodigy, etc. Mostly just pay for about
$10, you get 5 hours access to their online service, including
internet access. As to internet service provider, like the one I
signed on, give you longer time (15 hours/month) for same price.
They are either 14,400 or 28,800 speed. From that point of view I
prefer very much two-way internet (e-mail) rather than one-way BBS.
However, if BBS can cover those who have no access to internet or
e-mail, I certainly like to see Buddhism BBS established.

Best Regards,


Shawn

From: DavidChiou
Subject: Re: BBS in US

On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Shawn Chang wrote:

Hello! Mr. Chang:

> I've discussed with 慧開法師(來自佛光山, currently pursuing PhD in
> religion in Temple University, PA), 果稠師 (紐約東初禪寺), Mike Chen
> (CLC Research, this company set up web page for Hsi Lai
> Temple西來寺, their URL is http://www.clcr.com/hsilai/), and
> 覺凡法師 (Hsi Lai Temple). They all received a long mail which I put
> together all e-mails relating to this issue. So they know very
> well the progress of this issue.

    Thank you for the help!

    I'll deliver the relating discussion in 台大佛學研究中心籌畫中的 BBS
（信區的設定等事項）  for your reference.

> They are all very supportive. What 覺凡法師 (Hsi Lai Temple) needs
> at this point is a more detail description for proposal. Like how
> many phone lines? Exactly what kind of work or activities will be
> involved? etc. If you could, provide me some detail. So they know
> better what to expect and what to do from here.

基本上據我所知，現在分為兩個階段：

1. 不花錢的階段：

    只要借到一台工作站或是 24 小時連上 InterNet 的 PC ，
就可以架站了，這在台灣到處可見，隨便一個地下室或是宿舍
就有學生以這種方式架設 BBS 。

    現在這種 BBS 在台灣是主流。（雖然說技術層面不高，
但是是大多數人的選擇。）在美國這種 BBS 不流行，
而且美國的管制比較嚴，不像台灣隨便都可以架站，
但是只要有人願意提供工作站或 ip address 就可以架，
只是不像台灣那麼隨興就可以架。

    這個階段，如果我們在美國開立了一個中文的 BBS 站，
那麼對象將是常常從美國 telnet 回台灣的華僑（為數不少），
不限於學佛者。

    我們已有充份的軟體支援（ kftseng 學長是中興 BBS
前任站長、協助架設中正 BBS 等），最主要的瓶頸是在
美國本土借一台電腦。


2. 花錢的階段：

    如果前一階段成功了，並且有人有 MODEM ，想要撥接上來的話，
我們可以再加上 MODEM 以及數據機，讓沒有 InterNet 帳號的人
可以直接撥上來。

    這就要花錢了，而且我目前無法明確定位使用者的族群（有待大家討論），
所以基本上短期（幾個月）內只須進行相關的調查及評估，看看值不值得，
並參考前一階段使用者的定位，以避免不必要的金錢花費。

    以台灣來說， BBS 有兩種：InterNet BBS ，以及撥接式 BBS ，
兩者是分隔的（除了少數的商業站台以外）。如果能完成這個階段
的架設，那麼這個 BBS 將能兩者通吃。但是就必須有在美國的人專職
照顧硬體了。


    所以，就世俗上的投資報酬率（花的人力、物力相對於服務到的群眾）來說，
第一階段是穩賺不賠，第二階段還不確定。
    

> I'll relay your e-mails relating to this issue to them. And keep you
> inform on our progress here. And in the mean time, don't give up on
> your side. Buddhism community used to be an invisible group in US.
> They are out there but unless you do some digging, it won't be easy to
> find them. I hope through the help of either BBS or internet, we can
> get them out of their shell and get some fresh air  :-)

謝謝 :)

> By the way, it's pretty easy in US to get online service.
> CompuServe, American Online, Prodigy, etc. Mostly just pay for about
> $10, you get 5 hours access to their online service, including
> internet access. As to internet service provider, like the one I
> signed on, give you longer time (15 hours/month) for same price.
> They are either 14,400 or 28,800 speed. From that point of view I
> prefer very much two-way internet (e-mail) rather than one-way BBS.
> However, if BBS can cover those who have no access to internet or
> e-mail, I certainly like to see Buddhism BBS established.

    Thank you for your information, I'll send this data
to people concerning it.


祝 福慧雙修!

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~---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 23:06:11 +0800 (CST)
From: David Chiou <b83050@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: Re: BBS in US (fwd)

以下是旅美讀研究所的 tjyang 學長的調查，
看來在美國架設 BBS 不大容易..

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:50:59 +0800
From: tjyang.bbs@csie.nctu.edu.tw
To: b83050@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw
Subject: Re: BBS in US (fwd)


:      大剛:
:      給我幾天, 看看有沒有可能「弄」到一個 ip...

      ip 調查結果如下:

     目前如果要在電腦上加裝網路卡, 網路卡本身, ip address 的申請與
     cable 的購買合計要超過兩百美金.

     如果要透過系上來做, 就得讓我老闆付錢; 不過他是新來的教授, 現在手頭
     很緊, 他也看不出來我要網路卡除了玩還有什麼大用.

     如果要我自己出錢買卡, 申請帳號; 錢的問題是另一回事, 主要是硬體沒有
     人可以照料, 因為我不懂. 系上說得很清楚; 如果要自己私下買 ip,  不透
     過系上, 那電腦出了問題他們就不能負責, 而我自己又不懂...

     不是什麼好消息, 不過目前為止大致答案是如此...

     tjyang

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